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Title: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Andres on January 20, 2009, 04:39:38 AM

Večkrat sem že naletel na stavek I have a dream, torej, imam sanje. Nadalje sem našel da je ta stavek pravzaprav izrekel Martin Luther King 28. avgusta 1968.  S tem ni mislil le na enakopravnost med narodi in rasami sveta, temveč tudi, da ima sanje, da bo temnopolta oseba nekoč predsednik Amerike, kar se je tokrat tudi zgodilo. 

http://youtu.be/en2eEly85qQ

Vendar če nadrobneje pogledate tale video posnetek iz daljnega leta 68 je brez dvoma mogoče tudi, da je ne malo katero stvar Martin Luther King tudi predvidel.  Tačas se dogajajo prelomni časi za celo zemljo, potrebno bo nekako narediti več reda predvsem na finančno korupcijskem področju, ni verske svobode, oziroma so verstva še vedno nastrojena ena proti drugi.  Življenje se v tisočih letih za povprečnega zemljana ni nič kaj preveč spremenilo in nekako sem prepričan da je King to nekako predvidel.

Obama kot rečeno prvi temnopolti predsednik  ZDA tudi je, vendar gre pri tem za dobro kamuflažo Bilderbergov, ki so v zadnjih  petih ali šestih volitvah sami filtrirali svoje ljudi za predsednika ZDA. Gre za svetovne lobiste, ki nas in naše življenje tudi usmerjajo, zato se pri Bilderbergih skozo Obamo pripravlja tudi poseben statut, ki naj bi okrog leta 2020 že omogočal posebno obdavčitev skozi združene narode. Tu smo že blizu ene svetovne valute, kar je bil program Bilderbegov, kot so tudi oni planirali eno svetovno vojsko v okvirih  ZN, kar se danes lahko vidi kot NATO.

Torej čakamo na novo Ameriško valuto Amerigo, ki utegne biti tudi svetovna valuta in s tem še večje podjarmljanje in vefdalizem kakršen je nekoč že bil.

I have a dream for better day tomorow.
Andres

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Tea on January 20, 2009, 06:02:59 AM

Ja, in še prej bodo morali skregati vse med sabo.

Ljudje božji, zbudite se.

Jaz si njihovih filmov ne bom ogledovala. S Theto si lahko ustvarjamo čisto drugačno resničnost.

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Nena on January 20, 2009, 08:20:39 AM

I have a dream for better day TODAY. ang: :-*

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Tea on January 20, 2009, 08:49:43 AM

Quote from: Nena on January 20, 2009, 08:20:39 AM

I have a dream for better day TODAY. ang: :-*

Jaaaaaa, sestra  ang:

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: mavrica on January 20, 2009, 09:00:18 AM

I have a dream for better day...

Besede, ki v sebi skrivajo bistveno več...Andres to imaš prav...

Ko bomo sanjali lepše dni za vse za vselej imamo šanse...

Res je ZBUDIMO SE ang:

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Tita on January 20, 2009, 09:09:22 AM

Včeraj je bil ravno njegov dan v ZDA. Sem si potem včeraj na hitro prebrala še malo o tem govoru - je kar nekaj vrstic iz biblije, deklaracije o (ameriški) neodvisnosti in ameriške ustave. Če se postaviš v tisti čas v ZDA, ko so bili črnci (in ostale nebele rase) enakopravni le na papirju, je to govor o enakopravnosti med rasami. In King je vedel, da se točno v tistem trenutku ne bo vse spremenilo, zato je pa imel sanje/želje o prihodnosti. Če je država vrsto let podpirala suženjstvo, nato imela še segregacijski zakon (črnci smeli sedeti le zadaj na avtobusih, niso smeli v določene prostore - restavracije, klube itd.), bi bilo nerealno pričakovati, da se bo to odpravilo dobesedno čez noč. Osebno mislim, da je bila odprava rasnega razlikovanja (in to ne le zakonska, temveč tudi miselna) glavna ideja Kinga in seveda potem pod to spada tudi črnski predsednik ZDA, saj si, kot pravi, želi, da bodo njegove otroke (in s tem tudi vse njegove zanamce) ljudje ocenjevali po osebnosti/karakterju, ne pa po barvi kože.

Andres, škoda, da si zaključil s takimi mislimi, ravno nasprotjem od tega, kar je King povedal v govoru. Se mi zdi, da se zato pozornost obrne s Kinga (in njegove pozitivne misli) na nekaj ''negativnega''.

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Andres on January 20, 2009, 02:09:42 PM

Quote from: pikica on January 20, 2009, 09:09:22 AM

Andres, škoda, da si zaključil s takimi mislimi, ravno nasprotjem od tega, kar je King povedal v govoru. Se mi zdi, da se zato pozornost obrne s Kinga (in njegove pozitivne misli) na nekaj ''negativnega''.

Pikica.  Moral sem zaključiti s fevdalizmom, saj to je želja tistih, ki vodijo svet. To niso relgigije, ali zaprte družbe, kot so prostozidarji. Še manj so to poslovneži. Gre preprosto za ozek krog ljudi, ki so med drugim naredili tudi vojno v Iraku in Bosni, ki še vedno oblikujejo svet po načelu globalizma, istočasno pa nas vse bolj nadzirajo.  V to skupino sodi tudi Obama, sicer nebi mogel biti predsednik.

Andres

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Biljana on January 20, 2009, 02:58:49 PM

Na internetu krožijo različne informacije o Obami. tT se mi je zdela zanimiva, snela sem jo iz časopisa Spirit of Mat, http://spiritofmaat.com/jan09/weaving_a_global_web.html. 
 :)
On the Role of Barack Obama and other Souls in Weaving a Global Web
From Thoth, Shesat and the Ascended Masters, through Norma Gentile   


We are witnessing a new cycle of reincarnation at work in the political realm. It is a very large cycle. Each of you has soul agreements with your family and those who live in your community. You also have agreements at a soul level with all those who live in your own nation. Among the groups of souls that incarnate to complete particular tasks, there is a group that incarnates in order to create governments. Their goal is to create governmental structures within form that reflect two different energies simultaneously. The first being the individual's ability to choose freely, (i.e. to have free will), and the second being the individual's ability to belong to a larger communal Spiritual group.

One person connected to Spirit is strong. Two people connected to Spirit are even stronger, while three or more are stronger yet. You experience the magnification of your connection to Spirit during group meditations. Your healers know how healing energies are magnified by groups, as this is how they are able to facilitate an individual's quantum healing.

The group we are concerned with today might be called "The Founding Fathers/Mothers Soul Group." As these particular souls incarnate, their goal is to establish governments that allow for individuals to make free-will choices, while forming groups that are connected into Spirit so they can access the group's magnified connection to spiritual energies. Now, you might say this sounds vaguely familiar. And you are correct. This group of souls has created both the democratic and parliamentary systems of governments in your modern and ancient world history.

Five of the Founding Fathers/Mothers of the United States were members of this soul group. Two souls from this group helped to establish the Canadian government; one from within the center of the political stage, and another from her position just outside this circle. Members of this soul group have also been present in Lemuria, and in Alexandria, Egypt. Some were also present in Atlantis, but that is another story.

There are about thirty souls in this group. Their pattern up until now has been that four, five or six of these souls incarnate, while the remainder of the group supports them from the Spiritual realm. But that has changed.

 

WEAVING THE GLOBAL WEB NOW

Now, they are in the process of incarnating throughout the entire planet. Their goal is to weave a web of understanding which encompasses all of humanity. That web of understanding might, someday look like a single governing structure encompassing the world, with locally unique functions. But their focus right now is to simply draw into your reality that energetic quality of free-will choice combined with the energetic quality of groups consciously forming to magnify the connection to Spirit.

We are seeing some of these souls incarnate now in northern China. There are also two souls in northeastern Russia, five living now within Native American tradition in the southwestern United States, and one in California.

 

BARACK OBAMA'S REINCARNATION CYCLE

The question we sense from all of you is: "Is Barack Obama one of these souls?"

And the answer is 'no'.

Barack Obama is one whom these souls have incarnated in order to support. But he is not one of the major players in this particular soul group. Remember, this group specializes in setting up and starting new governments.

The soul you know as Barack Obama has had one life working within U.S. politics before. And that life was more suitable than you might imagine to prepare him to tackle what your country is facing. Several other channelers have speculated that he previously incarnated as Abraham Lincoln. While there are many similarities, we would say this is not true. Rather, those similarities seen between Obama and Lincoln reflect a connection of loving friendship and mentorship between the two souls.

Look also to the nature of the soul's journey. Each soul develops its own unique qualities through the trials and tribulations of each lifetime. While you do not incarnate along linear time, you may choose to revisit a city, career, or emotional situation, for a particular reason. Learning from other lifetimes will influence your choices as you live for a second, third, or fourth time in that same city or situation. Hopefully, your choices will become wiser, and the karma will be undone from the earlier lifetime(s).

Here, then, is what we would share about Barack Obama. His past life in U.S. politics was a professional success but a personal disaster. In this lifetime, after much study and consultation with other souls, he has re-entered the political stage with the tools and loving relationships that allow him full access to his spiritual energies and stabilize him emotionally. What was in the past will not be repeated. He has stepped backward into your time (remember, you do not incarnate along linear time) with tools from the future that will address present issues, and heal past cycles as well.

In the present, Barack Obama has the possibility of igniting awareness of the shared spiritual connection between people living in the United States and those living in other countries around the world. When this shared spiritual connection is remembered and revitalized through group and individual meditations and ceremonies, your shared consciousness will be cleared. A shaman focuses the energetic portals that develop in group chanting or meditation, and serves as a channel for this energy to create healings. In a similar way, Barack Obama has the ability to be the conduit through which the consciousness of America will change.

 

WHO WAS HE?

Eighty percent of the soul incarnating now within Barack Obama was also incarnate as Alexander Hamilton, your first Secretary of the Treasury. Ask us again in a month, and that percentage is apt to change. Just as you have the ability to utilize different aspects of your larger soul, letting portions come and go as you move through life, so too he will drawn more strongly upon different aspects of his soul as he moves through this life.

But Barack Obama is better served by looking at who he is right now and how he is going to move forward. He, and all of you in form, must now create with the new energies that are available to you, rather than looking backwards to what has been done in the past.

 

BOUNDARIES AND RULES ARE GONE

(from Shesat, blended with Norma)

(NOTE: Blended channeling means that the information is given from the perspective of both the human channel and the Spiritual Being. The information is from Shesat, interpreted through Norma.)

The energies of the past were held in place by strong boundaries of what could and could not be created. Now, our reality no longer contains those boundaries and their related rules. The perception of energetic heaviness we feel is often our personal or communal falling back into obedience to the past energies and their rules. But this is not what our future will be.

From here and into the future, our perception of the energetic space of our world will be a sense of gliding through space, and doing it with a great amount of ease. This may, especially at first, cause us to startle or scare ourselves. You might go into moments of fear, where you grasp at something that will stop your forward momentum. You may also find that you make yourself feel more habitually heavy, which you often confuse and substitute with being grounded.

Rather than gaining weight on our physical bodies, or accumulating items in our homes or creating relationships in which we become mired, imagine that you feel yourselves in the present comfortably connected to Earth and to others whom you love. This sensation of being comfortable upon the Earth helps our bodies connect to energies that nurture and nourish us. We are accustomed to having external energies, laws and boundaries define what we do and even what we believe we can accomplish. Now, we are invited to enter a whole new experience: to not define ourselves by want we can't do, but to define ourselves by what we can do. And that would be the mantra, here and into the future.

 

ALLOWING FREE WILL CHOICE

(from Thoth and the Ascended Masters, blended with Norma)

While there are many strong governments in the world, as the United States moves in one direction or another it influences the ease or dis-ease with which other countries function in the world. One of the greater political motions that exists within this new energy of clarity in the United States is that of learning to allow other people and nations to do something you disagree with. So while we as individuals and a nation find that we might be in disagreement with what someone else is doing, there is less of a sense of needing to do anything about it, except to say 'that wouldn't be my choice.' This is an example of honoring the free will we each embody.

 

THE SHADOW SIDE

Within the United States, the president has typically embodied the unconscious shadow that the majority of those residing within the country were working on revealing. The sexual shadow loomed large over JFK and Bill Clinton. The shadow of personal gain has overtaken George Bush. As a country, we end up processing the shadow sides our politicians because it is what we as a people need to learn about.

It is easier to see McCain's shadow side of anger and violence than to see Obama's shadow side. In fact, many people would argue he has none. And here lies the deceit that we as a nation are wrapping ourselves up in. The challenges and the path we in the United States must walk is not comfortable. Electing Barack Obama has not and will not take away our discomfort.

 

OBAMA'S ROLE

Obama is not the Savior. He himself jokes that he does not walk on water. Rather, he assists us in empowering ourselves. We are not going to be saved; we are going to be coached. Our next steps are steps into self-empowerment. Challenges are plentiful, and our shadow sides prefer ease and sloth to discernment and focus.

The United States is being called upon by Spirit, and by the souls of all those incarnating now on the planet, to step forward into the shoes of Manifest Destiny (the Sacred Masculine), which it stepped out of more than a century ago. We must do this in a sacred manner. We are not to dominate, but to place upon ourselves the mantle of true spiritual leadership. We do this with love, charity and honor towards our fellow men, women and children with whom we share the beauty and abundance of this lovely planet.

Just as the United States fell away from embodying the principles of the Sacred Masculine it was meant to demonstrate, we now must step back into these principles. What does that look like? The form is up to us. As we follow our hearts and behave as if we were manifestations of Sacredness, each of us will choose wisely, and according to our own soul's journey.

May my blessings, and those of Thoth, Shesat and the Ascended Masters pass to each of you reading this.

Norma Gentile

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Tita on January 20, 2009, 05:17:03 PM

Quote from: Andres on January 20, 2009, 02:09:42 PM

Quote from: pikica on January 20, 2009, 09:09:22 AM

Andres, škoda, da si zaključil s takimi mislimi, ravno nasprotjem od tega, kar je King povedal v govoru. Se mi zdi, da se zato pozornost obrne s Kinga (in njegove pozitivne misli) na nekaj ''negativnega''.

Pikica.  Moral sem zaključiti s fevdalizmom, saj to je želja tistih, ki vodijo svet. To niso relgigije, ali zaprte družbe, kot so prostozidarji. Še manj so to poslovneži. Gre preprosto za ozek krog ljudi, ki so med drugim naredili tudi vojno v Iraku in Bosni, ki še vedno oblikujejo svet po načelu globalizma, istočasno pa nas vse bolj nadzirajo.  V to skupino sodi tudi Obama, sicer nebi mogel biti predsednik.

Andres

Nisi moral, ampak si hotel. :D

Vsakič, ko slišim Kingov govor, me navda s pozitivnimi mislimi, ker vidim, kaj se je spremenilo v tem času (s tem mislim le na položaj temnopoltih v ZDA), zato tudi ne razmišljam o teh stvareh kot ti, kadar se spomnim na Kinga in se mi zato tudi ne zdi smiselno, ne logično, da se poveže njegov govor s fevdalizmom (vsaj ne na tak način, kot ga ti).

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Andres on January 20, 2009, 06:34:18 PM

Pikica.

Njegov govor nisem povezal s fevdalizmom. Vendar povezujem to s strukturami katerim pripada tudi Obama. Sicer nebi mogel biti predsednik.

Andres

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Azra on January 20, 2009, 11:38:49 PM

Zelim jim dobrega predsednika, samo nekako imam obcutek, da B. Obama ne bo dolgo "vladal".

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Andres on January 21, 2009, 04:59:04 AM

Tole sem tudi danes po pošti dobil. Resda je zunaj konteksta, a sovpada v čas, ki ga živimo, kot tudi sovpada v delo Obame, kar pomeni stabilizirati Ameriko in ji oprati slab glas.

"Lastniki kapitala in poslovneži bodo vplivali na delavce in stimulirali
njihovo potrebo po kupovanju njihovih dragih proizvodov: stanovanj, hiš in
tehnologije, z najemanjem dragih hipotekarnih kreditov, do nivoja
nevzdržnosti.
Na koncu bodo ti neporavnani krediti povzročili bankrot bank, katere bodo
morale biti nacionalizirane, država pa bo nato odšla po poti, ki pelje v
komunizem ... "

Karl Marx, Kapital, 1867

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Mojzes on January 21, 2009, 05:27:11 PM

zanimivo tole, ja ,vem, sem razmisljal nekdaj, prebiral in prouceval, res pa je, produkt tega kaosa, drenjanja in dokazovanja.., boj za prezivetje le v temu,da je preveč ljudi na svetu. vsi ne morejo imet svoj cilj, vsi ne morjo bit profesorji, učitlni, lekarnarji,zobarji ..in podobno naprej, gužwa, gmota, prenaseljenost, ajd, zbudte se, nekaj generacij zato, že lovi svoj notranji os. mir prezivetja, da si omogoči kar se da prezdravi, samosvoji obstoj dihanja"  ang:
je prenasljenost planeta 8) tudi jaz sem v temu
Tradicionalni bogatini drzijo svoj prav in ukazujejo po nekem svojem smislu nek kwazi" red planeta
Ne sramujete se zdravo zivotarit, morda bo v temu tudi kaj koristnega,spoznavnega, za os.razvoj,
Opazili boste kdo vse vam je srčen prijatelj,kdo vse bo znal lisičje izkoriscat karkoli,kogarkoli,trgovci že podmazani z dialogi samo,da bodo kaj prodali, lopovi se že moderno drenjajo za svoj plen in podobno dalje. Gledam širše,globok,varno in zascitnisko, ker je potrebno poskrbet zase ang:
od mene.

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Mojzes on January 21, 2009, 05:41:28 PM

ste že opazili,da ljudje se ne grejejo" več toliko po gostilnah, barih
v trgovinah ni vsakdanje guzve",police nič pretirano zabasane,hrana se kvari,
je kaj žurov na obzorju kje, zakaj pa se veselimo in sproscamo ob temu svoj nagon ang:

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: Andres on March 23, 2009, 03:35:11 AM

Spet sem naletel na video, ki se dobesedno naslanja na Obamo, kot predsednika, ki je nastavljen s strani zaprtih družb.  Kaj je njegov, oziroma njihov plan govori zgodovinar in avtor knjig Webster G. Tarpley.

Preprosto ne gre več za napad na Irak, tudi ne na Iran in tu bo Obama držal besedo. Ni pa on proti agresiji v Afganistanu. Brežinski je rekel. Center moči ni na bližnjem vzhodu, center le te je Moskva. Torej zdaj nam je jasno zakaj je Kosovo kot del sveta kjer se preteka ogromno krinimala postalo neodvisno. Jasno nam je zakaj postavitev raket na Poljski in Češki, jasno nam je zakaj se ZDA ne sučejo po Libanonu ali Izraelu. Hočejo biti bližje  Rusiji in Kitajski s čimer v naslednjih, četudi stotih letih lahko zanetijo svetovno vojno.  Nam v medijih nudijo spopade med Izraelom in Palestino, ter Nestle reklame, da ne bomo imeli usta kisla.  Webster G. Tarpley, trdi, da je cilj ameriške politike v rokah držati Kitajsko in Rusijo, vendar obenem tudi pove, da sta obe državi vojaško tako zelo močni, da je to pravzaprav iluzija.  Blaznost je napovedati torej vojno takšnih razsežnosti, vendar je žal Blaznost Brežinskega še večja, brez meja.  Ker kot vemo gre za enega tistih, ki svet vodi, vse to lahko napeljuje k tem, da ima Tarpley prav.  Tak razplet lahko izredno škodi tudi Evropi, ter jo tako potisne za mnogo let nazaj.

Če koga zanima naj si ogleda prvi in drugi del govora Tarpleya, zelo zanimivo razmišljanje, če ne, pač nič zato. 

Andres

http://youtu.be/MouUJNG8f2k



http://youtu.be/e-KJCMWcoms

Title: Re: I have a dream. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama
Post by: OtrokLuci on April 26, 2009, 07:01:08 PM

Quote from: Tea on January 20, 2009, 06:02:59 AM

Ljudje božji, zbudite se.

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