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Astrologija-zvezde so nad nami => Drugi astrološki okvirji => Topic started by: Andres on April 01, 2018, 11:30:52 PM
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Pri nas smo o asteroidih bolj malo pisali in verjamem, da imamo lahko o tem svojo temo. Cvetka je sicer vprašala kako se asteroid doda v karto na astro.com
Cvetka. V astro.com izbereš extended chart in potem pri dnu ti piše Asteroid name/number list with 20809 names. Tam ven izbereš asteroid in ga dodaš v karto.
Bom sčasoma dodal še kaj o novih raziskavah, vendar nekako nenaključno se vmes posadi tudi numerologija, kar je včasih ime asteroida.
Andres
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Nocoj sem gledal asteroid Persephone. Našel sem zanimivost. Na dan ko je umrla Tea je bil njen tranzitni Persephone na natalnem Uranu.
https://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/1092
Andres
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Nocoj sem gledal asteroid Persephone. Našel sem zanimivost. Na dan ko je umrla Tea je bil njen tranzitni Persephone na natalnem Uranu.
https://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/1092
Andres
kje si našel tranzite za ta astereoid, meni jih nikjer ne pokaže.
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evo še Bacchus
https://astrosavvyblog.wordpress.com/2017/02/16/asteroid-2063-bacchus-asteroid-3671-dionysus/
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Nocoj sem gledal asteroid Persephone. Našel sem zanimivost. Na dan ko je umrla Tea je bil njen tranzitni Persephone na natalnem Uranu.
https://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/1092
Andres
kje si našel tranzite za ta astereoid, meni jih nikjer ne pokaže.
Tranzitov nisem niti iskal. Sem šel ročno in dal s tranziti na določene datume in mi je prišlo kot sem napisal zgoraj.
Andres
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Jaz Bacchusa razumem malce drugače (lahko da streljam mimo). Ne gre toliko za sam alkohol, ampak bolj za dejstvo v kaj bežimo oziroma kako se izogibamo življenju in s čem smo na nek način "zasvojeni".
Pač Jane v 12 bi po mojem mnenju pomenil, da ko imaš vsega preko kepe, bežiš v spanje in svoj svet. V 5 recimo bi bil beg v hobije, ukvarjanje z otroci. Potem v 11 bi ga lahko imel nekdo, ki pred težavami beži k prijateljem, ne zna brez njih. V 7 ga ima lahko nekdo, ki ne zna biti sam, beži v partnerske odnose...
Tako nekako.
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Jaz ga imam v 6.
Očitno "bežim" v delo. Čeprav tega nimam za beg.
Mogoče bežim v bolezen. Kaj pa vem.
Al mi pa pobegne hišni ljubljenček.
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Kaj bi pomenil v 1.?
Ne bežiš nikamor, v bistvu sam vase?
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Jaz ga imam v 6.
Očitno "bežim" v delo. Čeprav tega nimam za beg.
Mogoče bežim v bolezen. Kaj pa vem.
Al mi pa pobegne hišni ljubljenček.
Mogoče malo obojega ;). Beg v delo, bolezen... Je vseeno prva opcija bolj zdrava :laugh: Ali pa zasvojenost z delom in zdravjem?
Kaj bi pomenil v 1.?
Ne bežiš nikamor, v bistvu sam vase?
V 1. sem si ga tudi jaz tako nekako predstavljala. Beg sam vase. Mogoče tudi na nek način odrivati ljudi? Bežati v športanje (ukvarjanje s svojim telesom), čeprav bi to ravno tako lahko bil v 2. Tja bi morda spadalo tudi bolestno kopičenje lastnine? V 3. beg v knjige, šolanje, učenje, čvekanje? V 4. beg domov, zasvojenost z enim od staršev?, V 8. hehehe tale je očitna ;D :D :laugh: ...
Razmišljam na glas (no na tipke ;D ).
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Meni je velikokrat servirano, kako se zapiram vase. Probleme rada res rešujem sama, šele, ko me kdaj kaj povozi, se obrnem na druge. Tak je moj način. Zaprem v črno skrinjico in tam "tenstam". Ne grem takoj ob prvi težavi nekomu jokat ... Morda se zaradi tega ljudje okrog mene res počutijo odrinjene, a namen ni tak. Najbolje mi dene, če me takrat pustijo, da "tenstam" svoje in mi na diskreten način dajo vedeti, da so tam, če jih bom potrebovala.
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Kako ga imaš pa na planete? Pri meni je v orbisu 1 :op na :U , točen :semikv :Ma , no pa recimo (orbis 2) :sek :Ve
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Jaz ga imam tudi v prvi hiši, ga imam pa morda v malce širši konjunkciji na Neptuna. Če se ne motim, imam orbisa 3. Bom še enkrat preverila.
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Moje razmišljanje. V kaj bežimo in česa se izogibamo nam dobro kažeta Lunina vozla.
Tega Bacchusa imam v tretji hiši, kaj pa vem?? Utehe ne najdem ne pri sosedih, ne pri sestri, tudi pretirano komuniciranje ni moja veščina.
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Dodajam
Bacchus
Son of Jupiter. Symbol of the pure pleasure principle. Hedonism and indulgence.
http://www.jessicaadams.com/2015/01/04/how-to-use-roman-asteroids-in-your-astrology/
(bolj proti koncu strani= :-*
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Hvala Cvetka, absolutno za prebrat :)
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To si zelo fino našla Cvetka. Ti asteroidi imajo eno neprednost. Če iščeš nekaj za enega, se hitro zapleteš v drugega in desetega in tako naprej. Kot jaz nocoj z DNA 55555
Andres
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Dodajam
Bacchus
Son of Jupiter. Symbol of the pure pleasure principle. Hedonism and indulgence.
http://www.jessicaadams.com/2015/01/04/how-to-use-roman-asteroids-in-your-astrology/
(bolj proti koncu strani= :-*
Hvala. Tole bom prebrala na počitnicah, sedaj je še preveč dela :)
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Sem naletel tudi na posebnost pri asteroidih. Včasih se lahko ven vzame ime kot se je dotičnemu ime ali ljubkovalno ime, ali datum rojstva, ter to pretvori v asteroide, ki lahko igrajo pomembno vlogo v našem življenje.
Sem tako naredil za Jane. Slavi asteroida ni, je pa Slavka in Slavička, mislim, da je nek Čeh to odkril. Potem je tudi datum rojstva, kar posledično da tri asteroide. Vnesel sem v karto, ki jo bom prilepil spodaj. Najbolje da sama pogleda, če ji kaj v oko pade iz njenega življenja. Ko sem to pogledal sam, se mi je prvo zazdelo, je bil oče težek kot sam satan.
Andres
(http://shrani.si/t/3m/6I/2nlVzeOb/slavi.jpg) (http://shrani.si/?3m/6I/2nlVzeOb/slavi.png)
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Sem naredil enako še za Sašo, tako, da bo lahko tudi ona brskala.
Čisto za sebe, sem glede na razpravo še od zadnjič, kar zadeva Urana in Severnega vozla, bržkone našel domneven ključ ki pokaže kdaj bom umrl.
Andres
(http://shrani.si/t/35/MS/1B20b30B/sasa.jpg) (http://shrani.si/?35/MS/1B20b30B/sasa.png)
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Vidim, da obstaja tudi asteroid Maja, in sicer ima številko 66. Grem gledat, kam mi pade.
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Sem naredil enako še za Sašo, tako, da bo lahko tudi ona brskala.
Čisto za sebe, sem glede na razpravo še od zadnjič, kar zadeva Urana in Severnega vozla, bržkone našel domneven ključ ki pokaže kdaj bom umrl.
Andres
(http://shrani.si/t/35/MS/1B20b30B/sasa.jpg) (http://shrani.si/?35/MS/1B20b30B/sasa.png)
O, hvala. Bom pogledala doma, ko bom imela več časa. Vsekakor zanimivo.
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Nocoj me je spet odneslo na steroide. Pravzaprav sem najprej našel tekst, ki ga bom kopiral spodaj in potem sem te asteroide vnesel v mojo karto, ki jo tudi dodajam. Predvsem zanimiv je pri meni Siri na samem ascendentu, kot seveda tudi ostalo kar sem našel ne izključno na mojo korto, temveč v kombinacijah z drugimi ki jih poznam.
▪️280 Philia: means “brotherly love” or friendship; affection; Aristotle believed in order to feel the highest form of philia for another, one must feel it for oneself; the object of philia is, after all, "another oneself. The term is widely used in the “egoism” movement, what is a healthy dose of ego?
The Main consensus seems to be this asteroid means “love, fond friendships” not the erotic kind of love. Strong soul bond. And of course self love. Is this the place you do self discovery, and lose ego? Pure.
▪️282 Clorinde: character from “Jerusalem delivered”; warrior woman; she saves Christians from enemy attacks. She is accidentally killed by her lover during a night battle, he did not recognize her in armor. She is able to convert to Christianity before dying. The name is also a species of white butterfly. If we use the literal symbolism of a butterfly’s transformation I think it fits her story well. She was passionate about fighting for a cause. Saving those who were faithful followers of the church.
Even though I don’t personally approve of the Christianity movement, I don’t think she is “evil” in that sense. But I do think her “conversion” to Christianity is symbolic of the butterfly transformation. The place we fight our spiritual battle and step into our own version of spirituality.
▪️289 Nenetta: French slang for a frivolous woman; Also means favor or grace; not taking anything too serious; playful; silly; light hearted; no worries
▪️296 Phaethusa: Greek goddess; Daughter is Helios; the personification of the brilliant, blinding rays of the sun. “Radiance”. She tended herds of cattle with a copper staff.
▪️302 Clarissa: from the famous novel “a history of a young woman” that is one of the longest novels in the English language. It tells the tragic story of a heroine whose quest for virtue is continually thwarted by her family.
Miss Clarissa Harlowe: The title character of the novel. Clarissa is a young and virtuous woman who ends up falling victim to Robert Lovelace after he convinces her to run away with him and ends up raping her. Feeling as though she has entirely lost the will to live after losing her virtue, Clarissa prepares herself for death.
• Possible Meaning: sadly, maybe found in charts of rape or sexual assault victims; loss of innocence; feelings of unworthiness; helplessness. On the flip side, it maybe a place where someone holds onto their own virtue for as long as possible, reluctant to part with it or share it. Feeling guilt shame for taking part in a sexual encounter;
*Note: There isn’t much that I could find on this asteroid, and I think it should be experimented with before it gets “labeled”.
▪️332 Siri ~ the iPhone navigation and assistance artificial intelligence named “Siri” - Virtual Assistant
Possible meaning: where/how one gets help or assistance; technology;
(http://shrani.si/t/20/oc/3oDspzUn/aster.jpg) (http://shrani.si/?20/oc/3oDspzUn/aster.png)
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EROS V SINASTRIJI (ne da se mi prevajat)
Eros-Sun: This relationship will serve to help each person discover their erotic sides. The Eros person may feel obsessed with the Sun person, and the Sun person is turned on by the Eros person’s sexual energy. Just by being him/herself, the Sun person stimulates the Eros person’s sexual desires and need for intimacy. The Sun person feels more alive and energetic around the Eros person, as Eros puts the Sun person in touch with their most erotic, taboo desires.
Eros-Moon: This connection combines emotional love with erotic love. This is a very deep and intimate connection. The Eros person is deeply drawn to the Moon person’s emotional nature. Eros wants to experience a deep bond with the Moon person, based on emotional sharing and eroticism. The Moon person is deeply turned on by the Eros person’s intensity and sexual charisma. Eros forces the Moon person to get in touch with their erotic nature, while the Moon person makes the Eros person feel nurtured and understood
Eros-Venus: This is an indication of an explosive and irresistible attraction. Eros is very drawn to the Venus person’s grace, charm, and beauty, and deeply desires intimacy with them. Venus is drawn to Eros’ sexual charisma and intensity. Venus’ sensuality turns on the Eros person’s sexual desires and erotic nature. Eros feels their senses are triggered when the Venus person is around them. This is a highly magnetic bond which borders on the irresistible!
Eros-Mars: This is one of my favorite Eros aspects! The god of erotic love meets the planet of sex! This is a very good indication of sexual compatibility. The two of you may be sexually obsessed with one another. The sex is very satisfying for the both of you. The difference between them is that the Mars person may see the sex as less of an erotic “merging” than the Eros person, but the attraction is nevertheless strong.
Eros-Jupiter: Eros’ feelings of love and passion are expanded by Jupiter’s jovial and optimistic nature. Jupiter shows Eros new ways of sexual expression, while Eros stimulates Jupiter’s desire for intimacy and passion. Eros is happy to have such an open-minded and generous lover.
Eros-Saturn: This connection sometimes indicates a love-hate scenario. The Eros person may feel that the Saturn person refuses to accept the attraction they have for the Eros person. Eros is nevertheless attracted to the Saturn person’s stability and maturity. Perhaps the Eros finds the Saturn person erotic in a “father figure” or authoritarian sort of way.
Eros-Uranus: This connection is electric and exciting. The Uranus person opens the Eros person’s mind to a variety of sexual possibilities. At the same time, Eros may feel disappointed when Uranus seems distant and hard to reach, as Eros desires complete intimacy and erotic merging with the Uranus person.
Eros-Neptune: This connection is both erotic and dreamy. As such, the passion and intimacy you share with one another is akin to a fairy tale romance. The Eros person stimulates the Neptune person’s sexual fantasies, and Eros is drawn to Neptune’s compassionate nature. Neptune intuitively understands what Eros wants and needs in terms of eroticism and intimacy, and gladly provides it.
Eros-Pluto: This is a great aspect, as both Eros and Pluto seek the same things when it comes to relationships: intensity, transformation, and a high level of intimacy. This is a highly obsessive and explosive union. The two will enjoy exploring sexual taboos with one another. They feel they are fated to be with one another. The attraction is magnetic and irresistible, and the couple might experience dramatic highs and lows throughout their relationship, due to the intensity of feelings involved
Eros-Ascendant: The Eros person takes immediate notice of the Ascendant person. He finds her extremely sexy and physically attractive. The Ascendant person’s physical appearance triggers the Eros person’s most intense sexual feelings. Eros square Ascendant: The Eros person is very attracted to the Ascendant person, yet may at the same time feel that the Eros person is very different than who they are generally attracted to. Nevertheless, the Eros person’s erotic feelings are stimulated, and the desire is strong.
Eros-Descendant: The Eros person is irresistibly attracted to the Descendant person, while the Descendant person feels the Eros person is the lover of their dreams. The Eros person’s sexuality and passion are highly attractive to the Descendant person. The Eros person learns more about their sexual power and physical desires through their relationship with the Descendant person.
Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. In fact, the two of them had to go through significant lengths just to be together. When this aspect shows up in synastry, the relationship is bound to be significant in both their lives, but their relationship may not always be easy. The many hardships the couple will endure will only draw them closer together. The Psyche person may have dreamed of the Eros person before they even met. The Eros person finds the Psyche beautiful, not only on the outside, but on the inside, as well; Eros loves Psyche for her soul.
Eros-North Node: My ex boyfriend and I had this aspect in synastry, and boy was it hot! As the Eros person, he pulled me out of my sexual comfort zone into the depths of true pleasure and intimacy. Our relationship was highly sexual, and we learned a lot from one another in this department. Him and I were drawn together like magnets. I always felt the sex was getting better and better, even after four years! I still don’t think we fully discovered one another sexually, even after all that time. I always felt there was so much more to experience with him, and he felt the same way (possibly even more me!).
Eros-South Node: This is a highly significant aspect. The two of you were likely lovers in a past life. The sex between the two of you is highly erotic, but at the same time comfortable and familiar. While the potential for growth is repressed with this aspect, it is nevertheless a very satisfying and magnetic connection.
Kopirano iz: https://starscopestoday.com/tag/eros-mars-synastry/ (https://starscopestoday.com/tag/eros-mars-synastry/)
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EROS V SINASTRIJI (ne da se mi prevajat)
Eros-Sun: This relationship will serve to help each person discover their erotic sides. The Eros person may feel obsessed with the Sun person, and the Sun person is turned on by the Eros person’s sexual energy. Just by being him/herself, the Sun person stimulates the Eros person’s sexual desires and need for intimacy. The Sun person feels more alive and energetic around the Eros person, as Eros puts the Sun person in touch with their most erotic, taboo desires.
Eros-Moon: This connection combines emotional love with erotic love. This is a very deep and intimate connection. The Eros person is deeply drawn to the Moon person’s emotional nature. Eros wants to experience a deep bond with the Moon person, based on emotional sharing and eroticism. The Moon person is deeply turned on by the Eros person’s intensity and sexual charisma. Eros forces the Moon person to get in touch with their erotic nature, while the Moon person makes the Eros person feel nurtured and understood
Eros-Venus: This is an indication of an explosive and irresistible attraction. Eros is very drawn to the Venus person’s grace, charm, and beauty, and deeply desires intimacy with them. Venus is drawn to Eros’ sexual charisma and intensity. Venus’ sensuality turns on the Eros person’s sexual desires and erotic nature. Eros feels their senses are triggered when the Venus person is around them. This is a highly magnetic bond which borders on the irresistible!
Eros-Mars: This is one of my favorite Eros aspects! The god of erotic love meets the planet of sex! This is a very good indication of sexual compatibility. The two of you may be sexually obsessed with one another. The sex is very satisfying for the both of you. The difference between them is that the Mars person may see the sex as less of an erotic “merging” than the Eros person, but the attraction is nevertheless strong.
Eros-Jupiter: Eros’ feelings of love and passion are expanded by Jupiter’s jovial and optimistic nature. Jupiter shows Eros new ways of sexual expression, while Eros stimulates Jupiter’s desire for intimacy and passion. Eros is happy to have such an open-minded and generous lover.
Eros-Saturn: This connection sometimes indicates a love-hate scenario. The Eros person may feel that the Saturn person refuses to accept the attraction they have for the Eros person. Eros is nevertheless attracted to the Saturn person’s stability and maturity. Perhaps the Eros finds the Saturn person erotic in a “father figure” or authoritarian sort of way.
Eros-Uranus: This connection is electric and exciting. The Uranus person opens the Eros person’s mind to a variety of sexual possibilities. At the same time, Eros may feel disappointed when Uranus seems distant and hard to reach, as Eros desires complete intimacy and erotic merging with the Uranus person.
Eros-Neptune: This connection is both erotic and dreamy. As such, the passion and intimacy you share with one another is akin to a fairy tale romance. The Eros person stimulates the Neptune person’s sexual fantasies, and Eros is drawn to Neptune’s compassionate nature. Neptune intuitively understands what Eros wants and needs in terms of eroticism and intimacy, and gladly provides it.
Eros-Pluto: This is a great aspect, as both Eros and Pluto seek the same things when it comes to relationships: intensity, transformation, and a high level of intimacy. This is a highly obsessive and explosive union. The two will enjoy exploring sexual taboos with one another. They feel they are fated to be with one another. The attraction is magnetic and irresistible, and the couple might experience dramatic highs and lows throughout their relationship, due to the intensity of feelings involved
Eros-Ascendant: The Eros person takes immediate notice of the Ascendant person. He finds her extremely sexy and physically attractive. The Ascendant person’s physical appearance triggers the Eros person’s most intense sexual feelings. Eros square Ascendant: The Eros person is very attracted to the Ascendant person, yet may at the same time feel that the Eros person is very different than who they are generally attracted to. Nevertheless, the Eros person’s erotic feelings are stimulated, and the desire is strong.
Eros-Descendant: The Eros person is irresistibly attracted to the Descendant person, while the Descendant person feels the Eros person is the lover of their dreams. The Eros person’s sexuality and passion are highly attractive to the Descendant person. The Eros person learns more about their sexual power and physical desires through their relationship with the Descendant person.
Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. In fact, the two of them had to go through significant lengths just to be together. When this aspect shows up in synastry, the relationship is bound to be significant in both their lives, but their relationship may not always be easy. The many hardships the couple will endure will only draw them closer together. The Psyche person may have dreamed of the Eros person before they even met. The Eros person finds the Psyche beautiful, not only on the outside, but on the inside, as well; Eros loves Psyche for her soul.
Eros-North Node: My ex boyfriend and I had this aspect in synastry, and boy was it hot! As the Eros person, he pulled me out of my sexual comfort zone into the depths of true pleasure and intimacy. Our relationship was highly sexual, and we learned a lot from one another in this department. Him and I were drawn together like magnets. I always felt the sex was getting better and better, even after four years! I still don’t think we fully discovered one another sexually, even after all that time. I always felt there was so much more to experience with him, and he felt the same way (possibly even more me!).
Eros-South Node: This is a highly significant aspect. The two of you were likely lovers in a past life. The sex between the two of you is highly erotic, but at the same time comfortable and familiar. While the potential for growth is repressed with this aspect, it is nevertheless a very satisfying and magnetic connection.
Kopirano iz: https://starscopestoday.com/tag/eros-mars-synastry/ (https://starscopestoday.com/tag/eros-mars-synastry/)
Jaz bi tukaj vzela le opozicijo in konjunkcijo. To sta aspekta, ki sprovedeta največ energije, pa še zelo ozka morata biti. Po mojih izkušnjah se sicer na tovrstne aspekte ne da preveč opirati, ker sami po sebi niso dovolj močni, da bi neko komponento sami po sebi prinesli v sinastrijo ali natalko, če je ni. Če ni aspekta med osebnimi planeti, Venero, Luno, ASC, ti dobra napoved tukaj čisto nič ne pomaga. Podobno velja tudi z manjšimi asteroidi - če niso umeščeni med fokusno točko (stelij, osebni planet - tudi ta mora biti poudarjen) in po možnosti ne dobijo močnega stimulansa (T-kvadrat, Veliki križ, itd), bodo ostali več ali manj pasivni in zabava za opazovat.
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Prav dobro, da sta to na novo odprlo. Zadnjič sem pregledoval nekaj in našel zanimivo povezavo dveh in več asteroidov, ki govorijo o poslih in poslovnostih. Zaradi premalo časa nisem mogel sem zapisati, vendar imam nekje shranjeno osnovo in bom dodal ob prvi priliki.
Andres
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Vesta jaz bi pa dodala še kvadrat. Ta zna kar delovati. Seveda pa pri asteroidih jemljem le orbis 1-2. Obvezno pa le kot dodatek k obstoječi karti.
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Že dolgo bo od tega, ko so me začeli zanimati asteroidi. Nekako pomagalo so kljub vsemu lahko, še večje pa je seveda astr.com, saj vse izriše, kot za planete. Našel sem dobro stran s podatki o posameznih asteroidih. Seveda našteti niso vse, a je vendarle to kar v redu stran. https://astrologyasteroids.wordpress.com/?fbclid=IwAR2pVyfc07MCvdCnTvRH7mEvI5fbIu_idT8FH5io6XszCGm2oE0sepU9w60
Andres
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Moje razmišljanje. V kaj bežimo in česa se izogibamo nam dobro kažeta Lunina vozla.
Tega Bacchusa imam v tretji hiši, kaj pa vem?? Utehe ne najdem ne pri sosedih, ne pri sestri, tudi pretirano komuniciranje ni moja veščina.
Bežimo tja, kjer je južni vozel, izogibamo se tistega , kjer je severni vozel. A ne ?
Jaz imam tega Bacchusa v 12.hiši in drži, da bežim v samoto, stran od ljudi
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Moje razmišljanje. V kaj bežimo in česa se izogibamo nam dobro kažeta Lunina vozla.
Tega Bacchusa imam v tretji hiši, kaj pa vem?? Utehe ne najdem ne pri sosedih, ne pri sestri, tudi pretirano komuniciranje ni moja veščina.
Bežimo tja, kjer je južni vozel, izogibamo se tistega , kjer je severni vozel. A ne ?
Jaz imam tega Bacchusa v 12.hiši in drži, da bežim v samoto, stran od ljudi
Ja, iz navade bi živeli j. voze, to je nekaj kar dobro znamo in smo prinesli s seboj na ta svet preko genetike ali karme, kot je komu ljubše :)
Znamenje s. vozla nam kaže lastnosti, ki jih še ne obvladamo in hiša, kjer leži ta s. vozel, nam kaže področje življenja, kjer se to karakteristiko, te lastnosti lahko učimo razvijati.
Sama pri analizi osebe ne grem v širino, ampak bolj v globino, tako uporabljam 5 osebnih planetov ter transpersonalne planete, kirona in vozle, le redkodkdaj pogledam asteroide, bolj mogoče v potrditev kot v pomembnost analize.
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Moje razmišljanje. V kaj bežimo in česa se izogibamo nam dobro kažeta Lunina vozla.
Tega Bacchusa imam v tretji hiši, kaj pa vem?? Utehe ne najdem ne pri sosedih, ne pri sestri, tudi pretirano komuniciranje ni moja veščina.
Bežimo tja, kjer je južni vozel, izogibamo se tistega , kjer je severni vozel. A ne ?
Jaz imam tega Bacchusa v 12.hiši in drži, da bežim v samoto, stran od ljudi
Ja, iz navade bi živeli j. voze, to je nekaj kar dobro znamo in smo prinesli s seboj na ta svet preko genetike ali karme, kot je komu ljubše :)
Znamenje s. vozla nam kaže lastnosti, ki jih še ne obvladamo in hiša, kjer leži ta s. vozel, nam kaže področje življenja, kjer se to karakteristiko, te lastnosti lahko učimo razvijati.
Kaj pa tranzitni vozli ?
Meni se zdi, da je tokrat prvič , da občutim ta T sv. vozel v 6 . hiši oz južnega v 12.hiši.... Pa to ne moreš verjeti, kako mi gre vse narobe glede službe in vsakodnevnih dejavnosti. Tudi mrk , zadnji, je bil v 6.hiši. Prej nisem polagala pozornosti na tranzitne vozle, ampak zdaj je pa ubitačno.
Res čudne stvari se dogajajo, vem da vse v dobro mene. Ampak je težko.
Bo bolje, ko pride T severni vozel v 5.hišo ? se bo malo sprostilo, kar se tematike 6.hiše tiče ???
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Lisa, a pripnes novo karto v podpis, bo lazje gledati kje imas trenutno tranzite in progresije :)
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Tole se izplača pogledat. Gre za Phobos Marsev satelit. Ruski znanstvenik je že pred 70. leti posumil, da je Phobos lahko celo votel znotral, ali celo, da gre za umeten satelit neke druge civilizacije, ki tako nadzira Mars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXhz5WA5wrM
Andres
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Malo sem raziskovala asteroide oz po naključju prišla do asteroida nessusa in dejareje. Se je kdo že poglobil v njega oz oba dva ? Najbolj me zanima delovanje v sinastriji, kjer naj bi deloval.kot obsedeno stanje, fatalna privlacnost, ki se ne konca najbolje..Uffff.
Nekdo mi je všeč in potem vidim, da ta moj nessus pade točno na njegovo Venero... Ima pa jupiter v opoziciji na Venero in potem se ta dejareja pade na njegov jupiter... Iz moje strani zna biti neke vrste obsedenosti z njim, kar je res ne Zdravo, ampak bog pomagaj, če mi je tako privlačen. . Pa se njegov mars v tocnem kvadratu na moj pluton. Na srečo vse miruje zaradi coronavirusa. 😊
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Če analizirate vaše partnerje in seks je dobro uporabiti Juno in tudi ostale asteroide. Tu so njiohove označbene številke 763, 16, 1221, 433. Zame drži.
Andres
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Andreas, tole pa kar drži. Sem preverila pri enih štirih, ki smo se super ujeli in je res veliko konjukciji s tem asteroidi.
Koliko stopinj lahko vzameš orbisa pri asteroidih ?
A z Nessusom pa nimaš izkušenj?
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Z bivšim možem imava zanimivo postavitev njegov nessus konjunkcija moja venera. Moja Dejanira konjunkcija njegov severni vozel in opozicija njegov nessus. Kaj naj ti rečem, je bilo res obsedeno stanje na začetku, tako z moje strani kot z njegove. Bila sva precej soodvisna drug od drugega in s težavo sem to presegla. Lahko sva se še tako skregala, bi vedno prišla nazaj drug k drugemu, enostavno izhod ni bil opcija nikoli. Sem se pa ločila, ko je šla njegova odvisnost od opojnih sestavin predaleč in ko me je že tolikokrat razočaral. Sva pa še danes povezana, saj imava dva otroka, vsak s svojim partnerjem ampak načeloma sva v dobrih odnosih, se zajebavava, pokomentirava otroke, jaz mu še vedno pomagam pri dokumentih, on meni kej okrog bajte nardi, ko se skregava ni več obsedenosti, mirne volje spustim slušalko in ne padam več na manipulacije. Se mi zdi da je skupaj s temi aspekti vedno en del manipulacije zraven.
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Andreas, tole pa kar drži. Sem preverila pri enih štirih, ki smo se super ujeli in je res veliko konjukciji s tem asteroidi.
Koliko stopinj lahko vzameš orbisa pri asteroidih ?
A z Nessusom pa nimaš izkušenj?
Nisem gledal preveč na stopinje. Kajpak je najbolje če je postavitev asteroida eden na drugem, kot se je zgodilo meni. Nessus bom še preveril. Nisem preveč gledal. Sigurno je kaj v konjunkciji.
Andres
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Uffff, Jane. Hvala za to obsezno poročilo. Tako nekako naj bi delovalo v praksi , kot si opisala... Na začetku obsedenost, potem manipulacija....V tem smislu.
Jaz nisem imela z nikomur te povezave. Zdaj je to prvič. Mi je pa zanimivo, da je moj nessus v opoziciji z mojo dejaniro ..
Ekzaktno. In ta moški ima ravno Venero in Jupitra v opoziciji na teh stopinjah. Njegov nessus pade pa na mojo tocko sreče. Bomo videli kaj bo nastalo tukaj. Ker privlačnost je zelo močna. Pa še v moji 5.hiši se dogaja.
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Uffff, Jane. Hvala za to obsezno poročilo. Tako nekako naj bi delovalo v praksi , kot si opisala... Na začetku obsedenost, potem manipulacija....V tem smislu.
Jaz nisem imela z nikomur te povezave. Zdaj je to prvič. Mi je pa zanimivo, da je moj nessus v opoziciji z mojo dejaniro ..
Ekzaktno. In ta moški ima ravno Venero in Jupitra v opoziciji na teh stopinjah. Njegov nessus pade pa na mojo tocko sreče. Bomo videli kaj bo nastalo tukaj. Ker privlačnost je zelo močna. Pa še v moji 5.hiši se dogaja.
Kako se pa on do tebe obnaša?
Midva glede na to, da sva imela ta aspekt, sem ga našla na netu The North Node tells us about themes in the relationship. You do not want a Nessus theme. Nessus is the asteroid of abuse. Bi rekla, da je držalo 100% Čeprav je bil tukaj južni vozel, ampak sva se morala naučit spustit ta abuse predvsem on, ki sva ga vlekla še iz prejšnjega življenja. Torej moja dejanira konjunkcija njegov severni vozel pa predvsem to, da sem bila v vlogi žrtve. To se je vse dogajalo v šesti hiši, zato je bilo to na tapeti v vsakodnevnem življenju, včasih vse kar sem naredila je bilo narobe. Tako da sem vesela, da sem se znebila tega in šla naprej.
Pri trenutnem partnerju pa je njegov nessus egzaktno na mojem merkurju to je pa tudi vse kar imava bom videla, kam bo to neslo :)
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Hm, potem je tole precej zgovorno.
Sinastrija z osebo, zaradi katere sem pred leti na forumu travmirala v velikem slogu. ::)
Jaz sem notranji krog.
(http://shrani.si/f/3f/2R/3fWHIJkf/nessus.jpg)
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Hm, hja, berem pomene.
Nosilec Nessusa naj bi zlorabljal tistega z vozlom?
No ja... očitno si hudo napačno predstavljam pojem "zlorabe".
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zanimiva debata, hvala.
Mi je pa zanimiva moja natalna postavitev, Nessus v eksaktni konjunkciji z N Marsom, zraven, 2 stopinji orbisa pa J vozel. Jane, ali imaš kakšno e teorijo o pomenu aspektov Nesussa?
:-*
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https://www.lookupthestars.com/post/nessus-in-the-natal-chart
ufff, najdla. težke zadeve. :-*
pa kljub temu, se težko najdem notri.
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Bom še jaz tega Nessusa poiskal.
Andres
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Sem malo pregledal in tako dodajam še trenutno karto z Nessu in ostalim. Jaz sem notranji.
(http://shrani.si/t/1z/kx/31UGxovh/nessu.jpg) (http://shrani.si/?1z/kx/31UGxovh/nessu.png)
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Jane, pri vama je bilo vse se bolj intenzivno, najbrz ?Tudi zaradi vpletenosti vozlov. Najbrž pa ni bila samo manipulacija in zloraba , če sta bila skupaj tako dolgo.in imaš z njim otroka
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Jaz se nimam pravega odnosa s tem moškim, ker je tale corona marsikaj zakuhala. Za začetek bi rekla, da je res velika privlačnost.
Sta pa v to konjukciji mojega nessusa in njegove Venere vpletene se moja in njegova luna, obe v ekzaktnem trigonu.
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Jane, pri vama je bilo vse se bolj intenzivno, najbrz ?Tudi zaradi vpletenosti vozlov. Najbrž pa ni bila samo manipulacija in zloraba , če sta bila skupaj tako dolgo.in imaš z njim otroka
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Jaz se nimam pravega odnosa s tem moškim, ker je tale corona marsikaj zakuhala. Za začetek bi rekla, da je res velika privlačnost.
Sta pa v to konjukciji mojega nessusa in njegove Venere vpletene se moja in njegova luna, obe v ekzaktnem trigonu.
Lisa pri Nessusu in Dejaniri je tako, da živiš zlorabe/žrtve ki jih nisi predelal iz otroštva. In pri nama je bilo tipično. Obnašal se je do mene tako, kot se je moj oče. Tega ne zaznaš dolgo, da imaš strupen odnos, ker si tega navajen in se ti zdi normalno. tako so te naučili, da se moški obnaša, v takem okolju se počutiš varno, tudi če ni. In zaradi tega lažnega občutka varnosti ki si ga zgradil kot otrok (sej se dere, ampak me ima rad) je težko iti stran.
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Jane, pri vama je bilo vse se bolj intenzivno, najbrz ?Tudi zaradi vpletenosti vozlov. Najbrž pa ni bila samo manipulacija in zloraba , če sta bila skupaj tako dolgo.in imaš z njim otroka
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Jaz se nimam pravega odnosa s tem moškim, ker je tale corona marsikaj zakuhala. Za začetek bi rekla, da je res velika privlačnost.
Sta pa v to konjukciji mojega nessusa in njegove Venere vpletene se moja in njegova luna, obe v ekzaktnem trigonu.
Lisa pri Nessusu in Dejaniri je tako, da živiš zlorabe/žrtve ki jih nisi predelal iz otroštva. In pri nama je bilo tipično. Obnašal se je do mene tako, kot se je moj oče. Tega ne zaznaš dolgo, da imaš strupen odnos, ker si tega navajen in se ti zdi normalno. tako so te naučili, da se moški obnaša, v takem okolju se počutiš varno, tudi če ni. In zaradi tega lažnega občutka varnosti ki si ga zgradil kot otrok (sej se dere, ampak me ima rad) je težko iti stran.
Pri meni se zelo pogosto pojavlja, da naletim na ženske ki so bile zlorabljene, fizično in/ali seksualno. Tudi kot pet ali osem let stare punčke. Je to potem ta Nessusu in Dejanira, ki jo je potrebno gledati pri meni al kaj?
Andres
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Jane, no zdaj pa razumem tega Nessusa in Dejaniro. Ceprav, to se mi je dogajalo v vezi tudi brez tesne vpletenosti teh dveh asteroidev. Mogoče ima kakšen pomen , da ga imam v 5. Hiši, v 11.hiši pa dejaNiro.
Zlorabe nisem doživela. Edino je pa to, da kot da ga ne bi bilo...Oče je bil v svojem svetu, vsaj do enega 6 leta se sploh ne spovnem kaj dosti, da bi se ukvarjal z mano ...potem kasneje okrog mojega10 leta sva pa spletla veliko prijateljstvo.
Ponavadi spoznam moškega, ki je deloholik, ki dela v tujini, ali kaj takšnega. ...
v bistvu sva v vezi ampak ga vidim zelo malo. In tako mi paše. ... ker če kdorkoli hoče biti veliko z mano , zbežim. ..to me duši.
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Naše nezavedno izbere partnerja, in tam notri je odnos z očetom. Zato si vedno izberemo takšnega partnerja kot smo imeli odnos z nasprotnim staršem. Tako imamo priložnost za popravni izpit in osebnostni razvoj.
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Naše nezavedno izbere partnerja, in tam notri je odnos z očetom. Zato si vedno izberemo takšnega partnerja kot smo imeli odnos z nasprotnim staršem. Tako imamo priložnost za popravni izpit in osebnostni razvoj.
Nekako bo držalo. Če gledam seznam žensk, potem je vsaka, ki je bila kaj vredna znala šivati, vsaj osnovno. Redke tistih nevrednih so znale kaj zašiti. Med drugim je moja mama šivala zelo dobro, in se bo verjetno spet lotila, zdaj po laserski operaciji oči.
Andres
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Za tiste, ki sledite tej temi, bo mogoče zanimiva spodnja stran. Veliko je informacij tudi o novejših dvarf planetih ali asteroidih. Če koga posebno zanima priporočam, da da vse te številke z oznako v astro.com in potem se hitro vidi. Nadalje se lahko le še prebere konkretno Vardi VARDA 174567 Ta je najbrž označila razpad Jugoslavije, tudi osamosvojitev Slovenije, vprašanje pa kako se je obnašala 2001 zaradi dvojčkov in kako se danes zaradi Korone. Vse skupaj bi bilo fino primerjati na slovenski karti in tudi na jugoslovansk, kot seveda ameriški.
https://zanestein.com/Trans-pluto.htm?fbclid=IwAR0TwK2Gqyrj2v_SVmIXd0wiE5txLQvtlXpWSWKPiVTwtYkmMd3ElmGTz9A#Varda
Andres