Asteroidi in njihov pomen v karti.

[Andres]

To si zelo fino našla Cvetka.  Ti asteroidi imajo eno neprednost. Če iščeš nekaj za enega, se hitro zapleteš v drugega in desetega in tako naprej.  Kot jaz nocoj z DNA  55555 

Andres

[Jane]

Dodajam

Bacchus
Son of Jupiter. Symbol of the pure pleasure principle. Hedonism and indulgence.

http://www.jessicaadams.com/2015/01/04/how-to-use-roman-asteroids-in-your-astrology/
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Hvala. Tole bom prebrala na počitnicah, sedaj je še preveč dela

[Andres]

Sem naletel tudi na posebnost pri asteroidih.  Včasih se lahko ven vzame ime kot se je dotičnemu ime ali ljubkovalno ime, ali datum rojstva, ter to pretvori v asteroide, ki lahko igrajo pomembno vlogo v našem življenje. 
Sem tako naredil za Jane. Slavi asteroida ni, je pa Slavka in Slavička, mislim, da je nek Čeh to odkril.  Potem je tudi datum rojstva, kar posledično da tri asteroide.  Vnesel sem v karto, ki jo bom prilepil spodaj. Najbolje da sama pogleda, če ji kaj v oko pade iz njenega življenja. Ko sem to pogledal sam, se mi je prvo zazdelo, je bil oče težek kot sam satan.

Andres

[Andres]

Sem naredil enako še za Sašo, tako, da bo lahko tudi ona brskala.   
Čisto za sebe, sem glede na razpravo še od zadnjič, kar zadeva Urana in Severnega vozla, bržkone našel domneven ključ ki pokaže kdaj bom umrl.


Andres

[Maja]

Vidim, da obstaja tudi asteroid Maja, in sicer ima številko 66. Grem gledat, kam mi pade.

[sasa]

Sem naredil enako še za Sašo, tako, da bo lahko tudi ona brskala.   
Čisto za sebe, sem glede na razpravo še od zadnjič, kar zadeva Urana in Severnega vozla, bržkone našel domneven ključ ki pokaže kdaj bom umrl.


Andres

O, hvala. Bom pogledala doma, ko bom imela več časa. Vsekakor zanimivo.

[Andres]

Nocoj me je spet odneslo na steroide.  Pravzaprav sem najprej našel tekst, ki ga bom kopiral spodaj in potem sem te asteroide vnesel v mojo karto, ki jo tudi dodajam.  Predvsem zanimiv je pri meni  Siri na samem ascendentu, kot seveda tudi ostalo kar sem našel ne izključno na mojo korto, temveč v kombinacijah z drugimi ki jih poznam.


 ▪️280 Philia: means “brotherly love” or friendship; affection; Aristotle believed in order to feel the highest form of philia for another, one must feel it for oneself; the object of philia is, after all, "another oneself. The term is widely used in the “egoism” movement, what is a healthy dose of ego?
The Main consensus seems to be this asteroid means “love, fond friendships” not the erotic kind of love. Strong soul bond. And of course self love. Is this the place you do self discovery, and lose ego? Pure.

▪️282 Clorinde: character from “Jerusalem delivered”; warrior woman; she saves Christians from enemy attacks. She is accidentally killed by her lover during a night battle, he did not recognize her in armor. She is able to convert to Christianity before dying. The name is also a species of white butterfly. If we use the literal symbolism of a butterfly’s transformation I think it fits her story well. She was passionate about fighting for a cause. Saving those who were faithful followers of the church.
Even though I don’t personally approve of the Christianity movement, I don’t think she is “evil” in that sense. But I do think her “conversion” to Christianity is symbolic of the butterfly transformation. The place we fight our spiritual battle and step into our own version of spirituality.

▪️289 Nenetta: French slang for a frivolous woman; Also means favor or grace; not taking anything too serious; playful; silly; light hearted; no worries

▪️296 Phaethusa: Greek goddess; Daughter is Helios; the personification of the brilliant, blinding rays of the sun. “Radiance”. She tended herds of cattle with a copper staff.

▪️302 Clarissa: from the famous novel “a history of a young woman” that is one of the longest novels in the English language. It tells the tragic story of a heroine whose quest for virtue is continually thwarted by her family.
Miss Clarissa Harlowe: The title character of the novel. Clarissa is a young and virtuous woman who ends up falling victim to Robert Lovelace after he convinces her to run away with him and ends up raping her. Feeling as though she has entirely lost the will to live after losing her virtue, Clarissa prepares herself for death.
• Possible Meaning: sadly, maybe found in charts of rape or sexual assault victims; loss of innocence; feelings of unworthiness; helplessness. On the flip side, it maybe a place where someone holds onto their own virtue for as long as possible, reluctant to part with it or share it. Feeling guilt shame for taking part in a sexual encounter;
*Note: There isn’t much that I could find on this asteroid, and I think it should be experimented with before it gets “labeled”.

▪️332 Siri ~ the iPhone navigation and assistance artificial intelligence named “Siri” - Virtual Assistant
Possible meaning: where/how one gets help or assistance; technology;

[Jane]

EROS V SINASTRIJI (ne da se mi prevajat)


Eros-Sun: This relationship will serve to help each person discover their erotic sides. The Eros person may feel obsessed with the Sun person, and the Sun person is turned on by the Eros person’s sexual energy. Just by being him/herself, the Sun person stimulates the Eros person’s sexual desires and need for intimacy. The Sun person feels more alive and energetic around the Eros person, as Eros puts the Sun person in touch with their most erotic, taboo desires.
Eros-Moon: This connection combines emotional love with erotic love. This is a very deep and intimate connection. The Eros person is deeply drawn to the Moon person’s emotional nature. Eros wants to experience a deep bond with the Moon person, based on emotional sharing and eroticism. The Moon person is deeply turned on by the Eros person’s intensity and sexual charisma. Eros forces the Moon person to get in touch with their erotic nature, while the Moon person makes the Eros person feel nurtured and understood
Eros-Venus: This is an indication of an explosive and irresistible attraction. Eros is very drawn to the Venus person’s grace, charm, and beauty, and deeply desires intimacy with them. Venus is drawn to Eros’ sexual charisma and intensity. Venus’ sensuality turns on the Eros person’s sexual desires and erotic nature. Eros feels their senses are triggered when the Venus person is around them. This is a highly magnetic bond which borders on the irresistible!
Eros-Mars: This is one of my favorite Eros aspects! The god of erotic love meets the planet of sex! This is a very good indication of sexual compatibility. The two of you may be sexually obsessed with one another. The sex is very satisfying for the both of you. The difference between them is that the Mars person may see the sex as less of an erotic “merging” than the Eros person, but the attraction is nevertheless strong.
Eros-Jupiter: Eros’ feelings of love and passion are expanded by Jupiter’s jovial and optimistic nature. Jupiter shows Eros new ways of sexual expression, while Eros stimulates Jupiter’s desire for intimacy and passion. Eros is happy to have such an open-minded and generous lover.
Eros-Saturn: This connection sometimes indicates a love-hate scenario. The Eros person may feel that the Saturn person refuses to accept the attraction they have for the Eros person. Eros is nevertheless attracted to the Saturn person’s stability and maturity. Perhaps the Eros finds the Saturn person erotic in a “father figure” or authoritarian sort of way.
Eros-Uranus: This connection is electric and exciting. The Uranus person opens the Eros person’s mind to a variety of sexual possibilities. At the same time, Eros may feel disappointed when Uranus seems distant and hard to reach, as Eros desires complete intimacy and erotic merging with the Uranus person.
Eros-Neptune: This connection is both erotic and dreamy. As such, the passion and intimacy you share with one another is akin to a fairy tale romance. The Eros person stimulates the Neptune person’s sexual fantasies, and Eros is drawn to Neptune’s compassionate nature. Neptune intuitively understands what Eros wants and needs in terms of eroticism and intimacy, and gladly provides it.
Eros-Pluto: This is a great aspect, as both Eros and Pluto seek the same things when it comes to relationships: intensity, transformation, and a high level of intimacy. This is a highly obsessive and explosive union. The two will enjoy exploring sexual taboos with one another. They feel they are fated to be with one another. The attraction is magnetic and irresistible, and the couple might experience dramatic highs and lows throughout their relationship, due to the intensity of feelings involved
Eros-Ascendant: The Eros person takes immediate notice of the Ascendant person. He finds her extremely sexy and physically attractive. The Ascendant person’s physical appearance triggers the Eros person’s most intense sexual feelings. Eros square Ascendant: The Eros person is very attracted to the Ascendant person, yet may at the same time feel that the Eros person is very different than who they are generally attracted to. Nevertheless, the Eros person’s erotic feelings are stimulated, and the desire is strong.
Eros-Descendant: The Eros person is irresistibly attracted to the Descendant person, while the Descendant person feels the Eros person is the lover of their dreams. The Eros person’s sexuality and passion are highly attractive to the Descendant person. The Eros person learns more about their sexual power and physical desires through their relationship with the Descendant person.
Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. In fact, the two of them had to go through significant lengths just to be together. When this aspect shows up in synastry, the relationship is bound to be significant in both their lives, but their relationship may not always be easy. The many hardships the couple will endure will only draw them closer together. The Psyche person may have dreamed of the Eros person before they even met. The Eros person finds the Psyche beautiful, not only on the outside, but on the inside, as well; Eros loves Psyche for her soul.

Eros-North Node: My ex boyfriend and I had this aspect in synastry, and boy was it hot! As the Eros person, he pulled me out of my sexual comfort zone into the depths of true pleasure and intimacy. Our relationship was highly sexual, and we learned a lot from one another in this department. Him and I were drawn together like magnets. I always felt the sex was getting better and better, even after four years! I still don’t think we fully discovered one another sexually, even after all that time. I always felt there was so much more to experience with him, and he felt the same way (possibly even more me!).

Eros-South Node: This is a highly significant aspect. The two of you were likely lovers in a past life. The sex between the two of you is highly erotic, but at the same time comfortable and familiar. While the potential for growth is repressed with this aspect, it is nevertheless a very satisfying and magnetic connection.

Kopirano iz: https://starscopestoday.com/tag/eros-mars-synastry/

[Vesta]

EROS V SINASTRIJI (ne da se mi prevajat)


Eros-Sun: This relationship will serve to help each person discover their erotic sides. The Eros person may feel obsessed with the Sun person, and the Sun person is turned on by the Eros person’s sexual energy. Just by being him/herself, the Sun person stimulates the Eros person’s sexual desires and need for intimacy. The Sun person feels more alive and energetic around the Eros person, as Eros puts the Sun person in touch with their most erotic, taboo desires.
Eros-Moon: This connection combines emotional love with erotic love. This is a very deep and intimate connection. The Eros person is deeply drawn to the Moon person’s emotional nature. Eros wants to experience a deep bond with the Moon person, based on emotional sharing and eroticism. The Moon person is deeply turned on by the Eros person’s intensity and sexual charisma. Eros forces the Moon person to get in touch with their erotic nature, while the Moon person makes the Eros person feel nurtured and understood
Eros-Venus: This is an indication of an explosive and irresistible attraction. Eros is very drawn to the Venus person’s grace, charm, and beauty, and deeply desires intimacy with them. Venus is drawn to Eros’ sexual charisma and intensity. Venus’ sensuality turns on the Eros person’s sexual desires and erotic nature. Eros feels their senses are triggered when the Venus person is around them. This is a highly magnetic bond which borders on the irresistible!
Eros-Mars: This is one of my favorite Eros aspects! The god of erotic love meets the planet of sex! This is a very good indication of sexual compatibility. The two of you may be sexually obsessed with one another. The sex is very satisfying for the both of you. The difference between them is that the Mars person may see the sex as less of an erotic “merging” than the Eros person, but the attraction is nevertheless strong.
Eros-Jupiter: Eros’ feelings of love and passion are expanded by Jupiter’s jovial and optimistic nature. Jupiter shows Eros new ways of sexual expression, while Eros stimulates Jupiter’s desire for intimacy and passion. Eros is happy to have such an open-minded and generous lover.
Eros-Saturn: This connection sometimes indicates a love-hate scenario. The Eros person may feel that the Saturn person refuses to accept the attraction they have for the Eros person. Eros is nevertheless attracted to the Saturn person’s stability and maturity. Perhaps the Eros finds the Saturn person erotic in a “father figure” or authoritarian sort of way.
Eros-Uranus: This connection is electric and exciting. The Uranus person opens the Eros person’s mind to a variety of sexual possibilities. At the same time, Eros may feel disappointed when Uranus seems distant and hard to reach, as Eros desires complete intimacy and erotic merging with the Uranus person.
Eros-Neptune: This connection is both erotic and dreamy. As such, the passion and intimacy you share with one another is akin to a fairy tale romance. The Eros person stimulates the Neptune person’s sexual fantasies, and Eros is drawn to Neptune’s compassionate nature. Neptune intuitively understands what Eros wants and needs in terms of eroticism and intimacy, and gladly provides it.
Eros-Pluto: This is a great aspect, as both Eros and Pluto seek the same things when it comes to relationships: intensity, transformation, and a high level of intimacy. This is a highly obsessive and explosive union. The two will enjoy exploring sexual taboos with one another. They feel they are fated to be with one another. The attraction is magnetic and irresistible, and the couple might experience dramatic highs and lows throughout their relationship, due to the intensity of feelings involved
Eros-Ascendant: The Eros person takes immediate notice of the Ascendant person. He finds her extremely sexy and physically attractive. The Ascendant person’s physical appearance triggers the Eros person’s most intense sexual feelings. Eros square Ascendant: The Eros person is very attracted to the Ascendant person, yet may at the same time feel that the Eros person is very different than who they are generally attracted to. Nevertheless, the Eros person’s erotic feelings are stimulated, and the desire is strong.
Eros-Descendant: The Eros person is irresistibly attracted to the Descendant person, while the Descendant person feels the Eros person is the lover of their dreams. The Eros person’s sexuality and passion are highly attractive to the Descendant person. The Eros person learns more about their sexual power and physical desires through their relationship with the Descendant person.
Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. In fact, the two of them had to go through significant lengths just to be together. When this aspect shows up in synastry, the relationship is bound to be significant in both their lives, but their relationship may not always be easy. The many hardships the couple will endure will only draw them closer together. The Psyche person may have dreamed of the Eros person before they even met. The Eros person finds the Psyche beautiful, not only on the outside, but on the inside, as well; Eros loves Psyche for her soul.

Eros-North Node: My ex boyfriend and I had this aspect in synastry, and boy was it hot! As the Eros person, he pulled me out of my sexual comfort zone into the depths of true pleasure and intimacy. Our relationship was highly sexual, and we learned a lot from one another in this department. Him and I were drawn together like magnets. I always felt the sex was getting better and better, even after four years! I still don’t think we fully discovered one another sexually, even after all that time. I always felt there was so much more to experience with him, and he felt the same way (possibly even more me!).

Eros-South Node: This is a highly significant aspect. The two of you were likely lovers in a past life. The sex between the two of you is highly erotic, but at the same time comfortable and familiar. While the potential for growth is repressed with this aspect, it is nevertheless a very satisfying and magnetic connection.

Kopirano iz: https://starscopestoday.com/tag/eros-mars-synastry/

Jaz bi tukaj vzela le opozicijo in konjunkcijo. To sta aspekta, ki sprovedeta največ energije, pa še zelo ozka morata biti. Po mojih izkušnjah se sicer na tovrstne aspekte ne da preveč opirati, ker sami po sebi niso dovolj močni, da bi neko komponento sami po sebi prinesli v sinastrijo ali natalko, če je ni. Če ni aspekta med osebnimi planeti, Venero, Luno, ASC, ti dobra napoved tukaj čisto nič ne pomaga. Podobno velja tudi z manjšimi asteroidi - če niso umeščeni med fokusno točko (stelij, osebni planet - tudi ta mora biti poudarjen) in po možnosti ne dobijo močnega stimulansa (T-kvadrat, Veliki križ, itd), bodo ostali več ali manj pasivni in zabava za opazovat.

[Andres]

Prav dobro, da sta to na novo odprlo.  Zadnjič sem pregledoval nekaj  in našel zanimivo povezavo dveh in več asteroidov, ki govorijo o poslih in poslovnostih.   Zaradi premalo časa nisem mogel sem zapisati, vendar imam nekje shranjeno osnovo in bom dodal ob prvi priliki.

Andres

[Jane]

Vesta jaz bi pa dodala še kvadrat. Ta zna kar delovati. Seveda pa pri asteroidih jemljem le orbis 1-2. Obvezno pa le kot dodatek k obstoječi karti.

[Andres]

Že dolgo bo od tega, ko so me začeli zanimati asteroidi. Nekako pomagalo so kljub vsemu lahko, še večje pa je seveda astr.com, saj vse izriše, kot za planete.  Našel sem dobro stran s podatki o posameznih asteroidih. Seveda našteti niso vse, a je vendarle  to kar v redu stran.  https://astrologyasteroids.wordpress.com/?fbclid=IwAR2pVyfc07MCvdCnTvRH7mEvI5fbIu_idT8FH5io6XszCGm2oE0sepU9w60

Andres

[Lisa]

Moje razmišljanje. V kaj bežimo in česa se izogibamo nam dobro kažeta Lunina vozla.
Tega Bacchusa imam v tretji hiši, kaj pa vem?? Utehe ne najdem ne pri sosedih, ne pri sestri, tudi pretirano komuniciranje ni moja veščina.

Bežimo tja, kjer je južni vozel, izogibamo se tistega , kjer je severni vozel. A ne ?
Jaz imam tega Bacchusa v 12.hiši in drži, da bežim v samoto, stran od ljudi

[sanjalka]

Moje razmišljanje. V kaj bežimo in česa se izogibamo nam dobro kažeta Lunina vozla.
Tega Bacchusa imam v tretji hiši, kaj pa vem?? Utehe ne najdem ne pri sosedih, ne pri sestri, tudi pretirano komuniciranje ni moja veščina.

Bežimo tja, kjer je južni vozel, izogibamo se tistega , kjer je severni vozel. A ne ?
Jaz imam tega Bacchusa v 12.hiši in drži, da bežim v samoto, stran od ljudi

Ja, iz navade bi živeli j. voze, to je nekaj kar dobro znamo in smo prinesli s seboj na ta svet preko genetike ali karme, kot je komu ljubše
Znamenje s. vozla nam kaže lastnosti, ki jih še ne obvladamo in hiša, kjer leži ta s. vozel, nam kaže področje življenja, kjer se to karakteristiko, te lastnosti lahko učimo razvijati.

Sama pri analizi osebe ne grem v širino, ampak bolj v globino, tako uporabljam 5 osebnih planetov ter transpersonalne planete, kirona in vozle, le redkodkdaj pogledam asteroide, bolj mogoče v potrditev kot v pomembnost analize.

[Lisa]

Moje razmišljanje. V kaj bežimo in česa se izogibamo nam dobro kažeta Lunina vozla.
Tega Bacchusa imam v tretji hiši, kaj pa vem?? Utehe ne najdem ne pri sosedih, ne pri sestri, tudi pretirano komuniciranje ni moja veščina.

Bežimo tja, kjer je južni vozel, izogibamo se tistega , kjer je severni vozel. A ne ?
Jaz imam tega Bacchusa v 12.hiši in drži, da bežim v samoto, stran od ljudi

Ja, iz navade bi živeli j. voze, to je nekaj kar dobro znamo in smo prinesli s seboj na ta svet preko genetike ali karme, kot je komu ljubše
Znamenje s. vozla nam kaže lastnosti, ki jih še ne obvladamo in hiša, kjer leži ta s. vozel, nam kaže področje življenja, kjer se to karakteristiko, te lastnosti lahko učimo razvijati.

Kaj pa tranzitni vozli ?
Meni se zdi, da je tokrat prvič , da občutim ta T sv. vozel v 6 . hiši oz južnega v 12.hiši.... Pa to ne moreš verjeti, kako mi gre vse narobe glede službe in vsakodnevnih dejavnosti. Tudi mrk , zadnji, je bil v 6.hiši. Prej nisem polagala pozornosti na tranzitne vozle, ampak zdaj je pa ubitačno.
Res čudne stvari se dogajajo, vem da vse v dobro mene. Ampak je težko.
Bo bolje, ko pride T severni vozel v 5.hišo ? se bo malo sprostilo, kar se tematike 6.hiše tiče ???